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Newbie needs help with first cartridge switch

Postby satlos » 25 Jul 2012 05:57

Hey everyone--

I just signed up at this great site and I'm a little overwhelmed... I recently purchased a new cartridge online and have absolutely no idea how to mount the thing. It's still in shipment from an audiogon user in the States, so I wanted to get some pre-emptive help before I get the package, get too excited, and end up ripping the stylus off! :cry:

My turntable is a little bit of a Frankenstein--in a good way!--so I'll list the components it's made up of:

  • Technics SL-1210
  • Origin Live Armboard
  • Rega RB-300 tonearm

I currently have a Rega Exact 2 mounted on there, but it's getting a little long in the tooth. After doing some research, I ordered the following:

  • Dynavector 10x5 cartridge
  • Origin Live Threaded VTA adjuster

I ordered the VTA adjuster based on some forum posts I read about fitting the DV cart to the RB-300, which lacks VTA adjustment.

Now, my questions:

1. Does this setup present any issues I might not be aware of?
2. Is the Origin Live Threaded VTA adjuster sufficient to pull this change off?
3. Which articles/protractors, etc. should I be using as a starting point on this site?
4. Anything else I should know?

I would really, really appreciate even the smallest bit of help, or a gentle push in the right direction.

:D
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Re: Newbie needs help with first cartridge switch

Postby Alec124c41 » 26 Jul 2012 01:46

The DV10x5 on that cartridge, properly set up on that arm, will cause loss of sleep as you keep listening to more music.
I prefer the Baerwald alignment.

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Re: Newbie needs help with first cartridge switch

Postby satlos » 26 Jul 2012 18:36

Hahaha... the "Properly setup on that arm" is that part I'm most worried about... I have no idea what to do.

I'll look into the Baerwald.

I don't have any way to measure the stylus tracking force... Is there some DIY way of figuring this out (not sure I want to spend $$$ on a digital reader).

Any suggestions on figuring out the proper VTA, or is this something you just eyeball (i.e. looking for the cartridge to be parallel to the LP surface)?
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Re: Newbie needs help with first cartridge switch

Postby Alec124c41 » 26 Jul 2012 21:52

Tracking force: set dial on side of arm gimbal to 0. Turn counterweight to balance the arm, with the stylus just above the record. Turn dial to 2.0.
VTA is usually set by eye, may be raised or lowered slightly to increase or decrease brightness.

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Re: Newbie needs help with first cartridge switch

Postby satlos » 27 Jul 2012 01:15

Thanks a lot, Alec!

Really looking forward to spinning some of my vinyl with the DV. I thought the Exact 2 was really great, so I can't to hear what the DV has to offer.
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Re: Newbie needs help with first cartridge switch

Postby tketcham » 28 Jul 2012 15:08

Hi, satlos,
If you approach this cartridge switch with care and caution you should do well. Take your time and enjoy the process. Cartridge setup and alignment is a good skill to have. I'll emphasize to be especially aware of the cantilever and stylus while you're installing and aligning the cartridge. Keep the tonearm stabilized while working on the cartridge. And those headshell wires are VERY fragile. Following are a few web site suggestions (you may already know some of them) to help in understanding tonearm geometry and cartridge alignment and setting up a cartridge...

For specifications on turntables, tonearms, and cartridges, and the alignment geometries that might work with your setup, you won't find a better place than the Vinyl Engine databases.

Here's the Rega RB300:
http://www.vinylengine.com/tonearm_database.php?make=Rega&mdl=RB300&sort=2&eflo=&efhi=&ascdesc=ASC&mdlo=&mdhi=&ohlo=&ohhi=&search=search&amlo=&amhi=&cw=&mp=

With the information provided for effective length, overhang (O/H), and offset angle (O/S) you can plug those specs into the alignment calculator to see how the RB300 tonearm geometry compares with the typical geometries:
http://www.vinylengine.com/tonearm_alignment_comparator.php?m_el=237&m_oh=15&m_oa=22&compare=d&submit=calculate

As shown in the link, the Rega RB300 tonearm has a somewhat unique geometry, designed for a combination of Stevenson/Lofgren A (Baerwald) null points. But if you can slide the new cartridge forward enough on the headshell (from 15mm to ~16.3mm overhang), and twist the cartridge enough to go from 22d to ~22.5d offset angle, you should be able to align to the Lofgren A (Baerwald) null points.

If you're fairly serious about cartridge alignment but don't want to spend much money, I highly recommend downloading and using Conrad Hoffman's "TemplateGen" protractor, available here:
http://www.conradhoffman.com/TemplateGen.zip
Unzip the files and read the README.TXT file. It has a very good introduction to cartridge alignment and step by step instructions on how to use the software and printing out a protractor template. It's an excellent protractor; and free!

There are many articles on cartridge setup so spend some time researching and reading up on the topic. Michael Fremer's DVD on vinyl setup is an excellent resource. For more information on cartridge setup here's an article worth looking at:
http://www.audiophilia.com/features/cartridge_setup.htm

But don't get too worried about the recommendations for tools, equipment, test records, etc.; try to focus on the basics and you'll end up with a very good alignment. Then spend some time listening and experimenting with adjustments in your setup. You'll progress from very good to excellent with practise.

One thing I would recommend purchasing though, is a good tracking force scale. Shure makes a simple beam scale and you can find inexpensive digital scales that work well. Start with a VTF that's in the middle or a bit on the high side of the recommended range. With a brand new cartridge the suspension hasn't settled in yet and you can lighten up on the VTF as it does.

Have fun! And keep asking questions. You'll probably end up with more advice than you can use but it's interesting to see all the perspectives on the topic. :D

Regards,
Tom
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Re: Newbie needs help with first cartridge switch

Postby satlos » 07 Aug 2012 20:35

Thank you very much, Tom! I will read through this all (still waiting on delivery of the DynaVector).
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Re: Newbie needs help with first cartridge switch

Postby Trackside » 07 Aug 2012 21:28

Just to add to all the good advice above - take extra care when tightening up the cartridge bolts when the alignment is correct - it's very easy to damage the arms bearings. There's a definate knack to applying the right amount of tightness without levering the force against the arms pivot.
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Re: Newbie needs help with first cartridge switch

Postby gpak00 » 08 Aug 2012 23:45

"I don't have any way to measure the stylus tracking force... Is there some DIY way of figuring this out (not sure I want to spend $$$ on a digital reader)."

I have this one, it's exactly the same as some highbrand types, only without a logo;-) And works like a charm!
http://dx.com/p/digital-precision-scale ... tion-16269
Bought it together with this (for convenience & nerd factor), don't think you need it though:
http://dx.com/p/professional-precision- ... gram-20010

There is a thread at diy audio about it too, someone tested it with a lab scale and it seemed pretty accurate; down to 0.1 grams as i can remember.
Best thing is it well set you back around 13 euro's including shipping.
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Re: Newbie needs help with first cartridge switch

Postby satlos » 08 Aug 2012 23:56

Hi All--

I began working on installing the VTA adjuster and found out that I'm missing a component... Having bought the VTA adjuster on ebay, I didn't receive this "Packing Ring" mentioned in the Origin setup instructions:

http://www.originlive.com/pdf%20manuals ... ctions.pdf

This "Special Packing Ring" just looks like a standard washer... Would that suffice? Anyone know how thick it should be?
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Re: Newbie needs help with first cartridge switch

Postby satlos » 08 Aug 2012 23:59

gpak00 wrote:I have this one, it's exactly the same as some highbrand types, only without a logo;-) And works like a charm!
http://dx.com/p/digital-precision-scale ... tion-16269
Bought it together with this (for convenience & nerd factor), don't think you need it though:
http://dx.com/p/professional-precision- ... gram-20010


THANK YOU VERY MUCH! Exactly what I was looking for.
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