Shure SC35C... Highly recommended

[Bran Kulez]

flavio81, below are the specs directly from JICO.
I bought the stylus so that I could use the SC35C in my Pioneer PL41D which appears to be designed for lighter tracking forces than the 4-5 grams the SS35C tracks at.
I had to use a solid aluminum headshell (Marantz) to get the additional weight for the SS35C.

JICO N-44GX e007449
Tip : conical 0.6 mil,
bonded diamond tip
Tracking force : 0.75-1.5g
Output Voltage : 3.5mV
Channel Balance : 1.5db
Channel Separation : 20db
Compliance : 10dyne(lateral), 10dyne(vertical)
Frequency range : 20 - 20,000 Hz

[ipapb]

Tip : conical 0.6 mil, Compliance : 10dyne(lateral), 10dyne(vertical)
Tracking force : 0.75-1.5g

0,75-1,5 g : This is not serious ! I would say 2 to 3 gr.
Hi

[dlaloum]

VTF goes with the stylus - not the cartridge!

If Jico have designed it as a 0.75 to 1.5g stylus ... then that is what it is!
(and by the way "this is not serious" is a distinctively french turn of phrase...)

a bientot

David

[flavio81]

Tip : conical 0.6 mil, Compliance : 10dyne(lateral), 10dyne(vertical)
Tracking force : 0.75-1.5g

0,75-1,5 g : This is not serious ! I would say 2 to 3 gr.
Hi

This is because "10" is compliance at 100Hz, not static compliance nor compliance at 10Hz.

[Ldg]

Yes, that replacement stylus suspension is a very different beast from the original, of course.

The combination of a stiff compliance high-VTF linecontact type continues to prove elusive ! I wonder why.......?

[ipapb]

If Jico have designed it as a 0.75 to 1.5g stylus ... then that is what it is!

I think 0.75 to 1.5 g with spherical stylus (r = .6) and compliance of 18-20 cu (at 10 Hz) is ridiculous, IMO (just marketing). 0,75 gr ! You truly believe it ?

As for the data constructor... For example, Shure indicates also a VTF of 0.75 to 1.5 grams for his M92E , but it is much better around 2 gr.
Hi

[Bran Kulez]

JICO doesn't advertise their specifications. I was only able to get them AFTER I purchased the stylus so I don't think that "marketing" is a factor.

[dlaloum]

For many of the styli, VTF data is available on the Japanese language website. (which I access via Google Chrome's built in web page translator)
http://shop.jico.co.jp/makers/

[Ldg]

I think 0.75 to 1.5 g with spherical stylus (r = .6) and compliance of 18-20 cu (at 10 Hz) is ridiculous, IMO (just marketing). 0,75 gr ! You truly believe it ?

Well, compliance at 10Hz could be higher still than that, based on VTF range. Obviously, this is very different from the original. But no reason to doubt Jico's spec. It's a very different arm matching proposition too. So, surprising as a replacement, i think.

[dlaloum]

Not so surprising perhaps, if as I suspect, the SC35C is a V15Vx in drag!

[Doubleplay]

Inspired by this thread i just ordered a M70BX at Williamthakker, which should be a hifi version of the old M-35 series. A good ol` Shure, made in USA.

[audiopile]

Just got a pretty useful accessory from Needle Doctor - the Shure RPP635 labeled as the M35 series hardware. Frankly - i ordered this because i have managed to acquire a number of SME bayonet headshells that lacked cart wires.Kits actually pretty useful : brush for cleaning stylus , couple of lengths of bolts , several washers ,small phillips screw driver for the bolts ,3.3 gram plate/weight.four appropriately coloured headshell wires, and most importantly a stylus guard that fits the standard SC-35C stylus , the JICO SAS and the M70BX. Downsides - well - the plate and the bolts are not non-magnetic -so probably not the best for use with MC carts.

[Doubleplay]

I wonder if the SC35C generator would sound better, since it has a lower induction than the M70BX http://www.shure.com/idc/groups/public/ ... ges_ug.pdf

[audiopile]

I think you're right about the generators certainly being different and although it looks like a JICO SAS for the SC35C would fit mechanically - but what the audible result of that pairing would be is a real question mark ? Likewise - wouldn't expect to be able to interchange 35/70 series styli with each other - they might "fit" -they will probably make sound - but the generators have to be really different. I do think the 70 series is probably a little more compatible with the majority of medium mass arms than the SC35C stylus is (apparently the 35 is the MM equivalent of a DL-103 -really sings with high mass arms).