I want to thank every one for thier wisdom and replys.
This is the latest things I've done to solve the problem
1, I droped the Blue tube as a gain stage it was a bit noiseie
2,I forgot in my haste that in the same system I have a NAD 754 Sourround sound Reciver I use for Movies,TV, etc.. I also use the tuner stage for FM thru the Zone2 out to the Jolida Intergrated amp. This allows me to use the pre in the NAD with out putting on the whole reciver
on it evens has a remote control for this feature. I put the grado ph-1 into an open rca pair ( vcr in ) This let me use the Jolida 302 about 35% of the way up and use Z2 volume to drive it like a power amp MUCH LESS noise and Got The Gain I needed. I think this will do 4 now.
I also Talked to Todd the V.J. ( who was VEERRY Nice since I did not purchase this Grado stuff from Him .THANKS TODD
) He did how ever write a 3 part article about the PH-1 and this series of Grado carts..I based My purchesses on these articles. He was also a bit Perplexed about the problem and did suggest I contact Grado to see if I can Make a stright up trade for the hi output verison of the Cart.. As of this writing I've got a call into John and am waiting to see if this is a possiability.
Although I would understand if this did not fly because this was MY choice and even with my research I F@%$ed UP!
Bastlenut,As much as I would like to run the rig W/O any added gain stages I have to put The jolida 75-80% up and tube noise still creeps in.
Werner . this is more of what I was after but I think You mean this translates to a -6 db drop in output which would explane the 25% out instead of the 100% I had .This means I need a 300wpc Tube amp instead of the 50wpc I'm useing( Power is The only answer !!
Anyway I do realy thank you all 4 your time and help.
I would still like to hear from any one that ,
A, has the same equipment in part or whole
B. owners of the Grado PH-1 or low output carts.
C, any Ideas that might add to Solving this .
Thanks Again ,Much welcomed.