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Re: Cartridge Close-Ups - Show Your Shots!

Postby Twinhit » 03 Aug 2012 22:39

Blue Angel wrote:
Twinhit wrote:Now that's a cool cart. That AT23a eminds me of a precision micrometer head.
Do you have any documentation for that?

Someone ought to start a tone arm gallery.

My dream tone arm is a balanced 3-4 foot long tone arm. The needle's arch radius reduces with greater length and as a consequence the stylus diamond's inner groove angle deviation from the outer groove is substantially reduced and
mimicry of the vinyl lathe's tangential (linear) path is more accurately realized with a much flatter arch than with shorter arms. At least, that's my
current theory.
Of course there would needs be much more research and attention to details than
that.


Yes, I do. I bought it new.

I have a customer who favours extra-long arms - way beyond 12".

ba


Way beyond 12"? Interesting!
I made some quick calculations and drew up a rough sketch of the various arcs and radius'.
(Using round numbers) for example:

An 64" arm that has (64" radius from arm fulcrum to stylus) will have an arc width of approximately .065" at the center point of a straight line (lathe line) distance between the outer rim of the record to the center spindle hole.
Approximately 3.5" width from vinyl rim's edge is allowed for program grooves.

When the needle is aligned with at the outer edge grooves, it will steer to the right toward the spindle as the needle advances towards the inner grooves.
The greater the needle-arc-line deviates away from that lathe line, the more that stylus' groove alignment is altered. The shorter the tone arm's (stylus to fulcrum) length, the greater the deviation.

IMHO, opposed to a typical 9" class tonearm, a 64" arm, dramatically reduces the stylus arc's "lathe line" deviation and as a result, the needle's angular orientation stability remains more consistant throughout the record's program section. though not a perfect straight line as a tangential arm would be, longer arms when well engineered to address other issues, could be a worthy investment costing thousands less than many high end Radial arms, let alone Tangential arms..

Try to imagine a 1" diameter arm that is 5.33' (feet) long! ie 5.3' from the stylus to the fulcrum.
Mind you, this is a traditional Radial type arm.
By doubling the length to 10.66", the arc is reduced to .0325", the stylus' angular rotation is reduced by half, yet again.
Of course no matter how long the arm gets, it will never be as true as a tangential arm. The only way it can hope to compete would be the incorporation
of technology such as used in old school drafting machines. B&J did this decades ago. I honestly would love to see that design in action.

Well, anyway, I just fell waaay off topic.
sorry.
:oops:
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Re: Cartridge Close-Ups - Show Your Shots!

Postby megatrends » 08 Aug 2012 04:20

Got mah replacement SHURE N97xE stylus

Comes in a cute little plastic case.

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Re: Cartridge Close-Ups - Show Your Shots!

Postby lynnot » 09 Aug 2012 19:39

Blue Angel wrote:Alas, this marvellous thread wasn't started by me :lol:

It was started by a now dearly departed gent from my country (but still alive).

There's absolutely no need to feel inhibited about what you have in any way. The only qualification is making music from vinyl.

Just for you, I'll be posting a pic of what I sometimes play with :D

No-one knows what it is but it's stereo and a moving iron type cartridge.

ba
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Hi,

could that be a vintage Goldring cartridge?

Rgds, L.
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Re: Grace F-9

Postby purepitch » 15 Aug 2012 04:09

Ernie L wrote:Image
Grace F-9 Sound-smith retip

I need to learn how to take dust free pictures


Me too, I do like this cartridge, have you found a "recent" replacement stylus?
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Nagaoka mp-11 Boron

Postby colver » 22 Aug 2012 23:31

Definately hooked on Nagaoka. This is my third in the last few months......and probably my last, cant imagine how it could get any better than the mp-11 Boron.
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Re: Nagaoka mp-11 Boron

Postby loonieboo » 23 Aug 2012 22:56

colver wrote:Definately hooked on Nagaoka. This is my third in the last few months......and probably my last, cant imagine how it could get any better than the mp-11 Boron.

Nice cartridge love Nagaokas ,better is an MP50 super a rare beast but grab it if you ever come across one :)
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Re: Cartridge Close-Ups - Show Your Shots!

Postby Blue Angel » 30 Aug 2012 15:25

Custom-built MC cartridge to fit replica EMT-style hardwood headshell.

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Re: Cartridge Close-Ups - Show Your Shots!

Postby loonieboo » 30 Aug 2012 22:32

Blue thats a work of ART. If thats for a punter then they should have a grin like a cheshire cat when they see it .
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Re: Cartridge Close-Ups - Show Your Shots!

Postby Blue Angel » 31 Aug 2012 09:43

Ah, thanks, loonieboo :lol:

I am cautiously optimistic.

Cheers

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Re: Cartridge Close-Ups - Show Your Shots!

Postby nightdream » 04 Sep 2012 19:33

150MLX on Thorens TD 318MKII

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Re: Cartridge Close-Ups - Show Your Shots!

Postby Electone » 08 Sep 2012 00:51

Here's a couple Shure oldies: a M44E with Jico stylus working on a Technics SL-D3 and a M70EJ with the oem stylus on a Technics SL-23.

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Re: Cartridge Close-Ups - Show Your Shots!

Postby thommo_work » 08 Sep 2012 12:25

Nagaoka MP11 with a Jeweltone branded (Nagaoka OEM) MP-20 stylus

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Re: Cartridge Close-Ups - Show Your Shots!

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