avole wrote:but I'll post figures for the Lenco L75 when it's up and running if anyone is interested.
I'm not talking about DD vs Beltavole wrote:Time to leave it, trackside. both Direct drive and Belt drives, not to mention rim drives, can all have speed stability problems, it isn't endemic to any particular type. In the end, it comes down to the engineering.
Unfortunately I don't have any belt drive turntables with me to measure, but I'll post figures for the Lenco L75 when it's up and running if anyone is interested.
avole wrote:You don't let go, do you, though I note you've changed your original statement markedly statement.
My strictly budget CJ55 measures around the 0.04% mark if I remember correctly, the Rega P3 measures at .04%, the VPI Scout at .02% . The equivalent AT direct drive turntable measures .2%.
You cannot make any definitive statement except to say it is the quality of the engineering. Technics happen to produce top notch direct drives, of that I'd agree, since I have 2.
No matter which turntable drive system, it does pay to look at the figures, as they'll give you an indication of what to expect. The Thorens (the TD160 measures around the .05%) sound good from the outset and can be made to sound wonderful by a bit of tuning and an arm change. The SL1200 can be tweaked, but, frankly, the best one is to put on a quality cartridge, a Benz or similar. Other tweaks don't give a massive lift to what is an already good turntable.
I rest my case m'lud!Trackside wrote:...Never claimed that the SL-1200 is the last word in musicality but if you are sensative to pitch stability (I am - others are not) then belt drive TT's will give you problems.
I stand by that statement as well - thanks for reminding meavole wrote:I rest my case m'lud!Trackside wrote:...Never claimed that the SL-1200 is the last word in musicality but if you are sensative to pitch stability (I am - others are not) then belt drive TT's will give you problems.
Very true but only if the definition of 'the quality of the engineering' is measured by it's level of performance in this particular area. If it measures well it's good engineering, if it measures badly it's poor engineering no matter how nice it looks or how well it 's made in mechanical tolerance terms or how much it costs.avole wrote:
I'll repeat for the umpteenth time, it isn't the drive system, it's the quality of the engineering that defines the amount of pitch instability.