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Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby keiko5 » 16 Apr 2012 18:16

I spent most of the weekend working on a Yamaha PX-3 linear tracker, a recent addition to my LT collection. This is my first Yamaha TT, and I was pleasantly surprised by the overall impression of quality. In the specifications, the plinth is described as being made from “ BMC (Bulk Mounding Compound)” so I was expecting some sort of medium or high density wood fiber material. It is actually a complex aluminum alloy casting painted matt-black and is very substantial. In fact, much of the turntable is made from aluminum castings or stamped steel. There is no particle-board or wood products used in the build of the PX-3, and very little plastic.

The Yamaha arrived in beautiful condition (except for the dust cover) with all shipping clamps in place, and the seller included all of the accessories but there is only one headshell. The turntable was fairly dusty and it clearly wasn’t used in quite a while. The wide transport belt exhibited the usual slippage issues, most of the control buttons weren’t working, and the cueing was very stiff. Since all of the mechanisms and electronics are accessible only from the bottom, I went out to the garage and made some wood supports that allowed me to turn the turntable upside down without the cover. When I removed the heavy steel bottom cover, I saw how thoughtful and well laid out the inside was. High praise to Yamaha for making the arm-transport a complete and separate assembly as it made cleaning, repairing and testing all of the arm’s functions soooo much easier. Without going into a lot of detail, here is a list of tasks completed; removed, cleaned and re-tensioned the flat transport belt, cleaned the three small drive belts and ridged drive shaft, deoxit-ed all pushbutton contacts, removed, cleaned and re-lubed the cueing damping cylinder, cleaned the guide rails and wheels and adjusted the micro sensors that control arm movement. All this can be done and tested with the arm transport assembly separated from the upside-down turntable.

Once I was satisfied with the results, I reassembled the turntable and plugged it into my system. I installed a headshell with a Shure V15 Type IV cartridge that I use on my Mitsubishi LT-5V as the overhang for both turntables is the same. The Yamaha is a very attractive turntable, and the arm movement is very smooth and precise. I think I overdid the sluggish cueing, as it is now a bit to fast on the drop. Another minor annoyance is there doesn’t seem to be any muting, so the stylus drop and lift are clearly audible. I’m surprised that muting is not built into the cueing function of the PX-3 as it is on all of my other LT turntables. If you know there is indeed a mute function, please let me know where to find it so I can correct it.

I find the layout and labeling of the buttons is a bit odd, and I’m certain that my wife will be confused and intimidated by them. The power button is unlit and inboard of the speed selection button which is lit. I have pushed the lit speed button a number of times trying to turn off the power. There is no button labeled “start”, instead you need to push either the “30” or “17” button to start the player. Instead of “stop” or “return”, there is a button labeled “cut” that performs this function. There is one “down” button but two “up” buttons, each also controlling manual arm movement left or right. These buttons have two “speeds”. Push either of them in lightly and they move the arm slowly in the chosen direction, push harder and the arm speeds up, a very nice feature.

Other than these relatively minor issues, the Yamaha PX-3 left a very positive first impression with its substantial build and use of quality materials. It is beautifully designed, precise in its functions and sounds wonderful with the installed Shure cartridge. The PX-3 seems to be readily available for reasonable prices, and except for the seemingly chronic belt-slipping issue, it appears to be a very reliable player.

Cheers, Kevin


Addendum: My PX-3 arrived in virtually mint condition, except for the dust cover which was damaged during shipping. A large piece near the left rear corner broke off and was rattling around in the packing. It is a very clean break, with no spider-webbing or missing bits. Too bad, because the cover is crystal clear and scratch free. Has anyone had success repairing this type of damage? I’m planning to take it to a plastic specialty shop to get their opinion on the type of glue to use, but someone here may have more experience repairing acrylic turntable covers.
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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby lensmanMK2 » 16 Apr 2012 18:38

i need to move to the US (or japan..) ive wanted one of these for years!

out of curiosity how do you find the shure v15 on the lt5v? im using a 97xe right now and finding it a very good match using the original headshell.

plus if you find a pioneer l800 on your travels give it a shot.its an excellent linear tracker,especially with its original MC cart. its been slated a lot but i wonder if pioneer made it to match well with the l800's arm?
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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby Alec124c41 » 17 Apr 2012 03:09

The shops that make custom retail display stands will have the right solvent for the lid, and could do this in 2 minutes, if they are not in the middle of a big order.
My P-3 arrived with the lid in several pieces. I repaired a missing bottom corner of the base with JB Stick. Original box :) minus original insides :(
The original Yamaha MC705 cartridge is very good. I currently have an AT440MLa mounted, sounding very fine.
Can't recommend the Grado Reference Platinum on this.
I like the easy VTA adjustment. Did you get the auxiliary weights?
All in all, a great turntable.

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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby keiko5 » 17 Apr 2012 05:00

Yes, my PX-3 came with both aux weights, the overhang gauge and the 45 adapter. I already had a MC705 cartridge but decided to use the Shure because the 705 is mounted on another turntable. I agree, the easy VTA adjustment is just another example of the thoughtful design of these turntables.

I went to the plastic supply store this afternoon and got the correct solvent/cement and needle applicator. They said the repair wouldn't be invisible but would look much better than if I used CA or other glues. We'll see....

Alex, does yours mute when cueing the stylus?

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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby Alec124c41 » 18 Apr 2012 04:27

When I clean the stylus (light wipe with Magic Eraser) I hear it through my speakers.
I plan to have several days of testing different cartridges on mine. Just for fun. :D

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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby keiko5 » 18 Apr 2012 06:52

Thanks, Alex. I guess there is no muting as mine does the same. LensmanMK2, I really like how the Shure Type IV sounds on the Yamaha. When I had it on the Mitsu LT-5V, it seemed overly bright. It may have been because of the new stylus and lack of break-in, but it seems to have smoothed out alot on the PX-3.

I did the cover repair yesterday, and waited until today to sand and polish it. It came out just OK. In hindsight, I wish I had asked the folks at the shop for a few scrap pieces of acryic to practice on, as I'm sure I could have done a better job. I was too concerned with marring the surface from applying too much solvent, so I was very judicious with it and ended up with some tiny bubbles in the joint. Had I known that the excess was so easy to cleanup once it dried, I would have used more solvent and flooded the joint to minimize the bubbles. The surfaces are even and polished, and if not for the bubbles I think the repair would have been hard to detect, especially being located in the back corner.
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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby keiko5 » 23 Apr 2012 21:10

I was not satisfied with how the tonearm of the Yamaha PX3 was acting, so I spent a while this weekend working on slowing the cueing decent and on balancing. The Yamaha tonearm seemed to be very tricky to attain zero balance, and I finally realized that the vertical bearings were too tight. I read about this same issue with the PX3 on another site, but instead of applying oil as suggested on that site, I decided to figure out how to adjust the bearings. I found that the round "covers" on each side of the tonearm housing are attached simply with a bit of rubberized glue. I carefully pried one side off and voila! the bearing was right there under the cover. It seemed like the needle and the lockring were also bonded with the rubber glue to prevent exactly the kind of tweaking I was undertaking. I was able to break them loose using two mini screwdrivers. I loosened the bearing just a smidge (that is half a tad) so I could feel just the slightest hint of play when placing my finger across the pivot housing. Now the tonearm behaves, and balance is unrestricted.

To cure the fast descent, I removed the damping cylinder, cleaned it out and applied some dielectric silicone grease to the shaft. It is very sticky grease and is an excellent damping agent. The action of the tonearm is now as close to perfect as I can expect. The Yamaha sounds and performs remarkably well. Now that all the tweaking is done I can sit back and enjoy the music!
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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby fscl » 23 Apr 2012 21:37

Nice write up..... :) :) and great job on the resto..... =D> =D>

Know that you're partial to LTs, so if you had to have only one...... :-k #-o ](*,) Which one would it be.....:-k :-k :-k :-k, Mitsu, Yami, etc.....:-k :-k

Inquiring minds want to know.....

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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby keiko5 » 23 Apr 2012 22:26

fscl wrote:Know that you're partial to LTs, so if you had to have only one...... Which one would it be Mitsu, Yami, etc.

Inquiring minds want to know.....

Fred


Thanks, Fred. That's a tough one, and it may get even tougher as I am expecting delivery of a pristine Technics SL-10 with EPS 310MC at the end of the week. It will be my first experience with one of those. Each one of my LTs is so different from the others that making an objective choice is difficult. The Mitsu LT-30 is big, gorgeous and silky smooth, the Harman Kardon ST-8 is compact and perfectly quirky, and the Revox B791 is an ingenious design and sounds amazing with the right cartridge. But my gut tells me that I'd keep the B&O 4004 with the MMC20CL cartridge purely for sentimental reasons. Hopefully I'll never have to make that decision.

It seems that when manufacturers and designers went to work on linear trackers, they were able to throw tradition to the wind. Each had their own approach on how to design the best LT possible. They ranged from sublime to outrageous, and the variety of the designs and solutions is what makes LTs so appealing. It's not a matter of "if you've seen one you've seen them all" as is often the case with pivoted arm turntables. It's as if they are telling me, "Kevin, you ain't seen nothin' yet!"
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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby PaulTwickers » 24 Apr 2012 14:39

I've been running a second hand PX 3 for a couple of years, without major problems. When I switch on sometimes the band (running the tone-arm) sticks- nothing that a gentle push won't cure. Once the needle hits the LP, everything is fine. I have a MC 705 cartridge which is OK, but have found that a Decca London Gold cartridge gets a lot more detail out.
The PX 3 easily out-performed the SME Model 20 with an V 9inch arm, Linn Sondek and is on a parr with a refurbed Garrard 401.

I have occasionally thought that a refurb might give the PX 3 a second lease of life and am on the look out for advice on where this could be done. Any ideas???
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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby fscl » 28 Apr 2012 15:19

keiko5 wrote:
fscl wrote:Know that you're partial to LTs, so if you had to have only one...... Which one would it be Mitsu, Yami, etc.

Inquiring minds want to know.....

Fred


Thanks, Fred. That's a tough one, and it may get even tougher as I am expecting delivery of a pristine Technics SL-10 with EPS 310MC at the end of the week. It will be my first experience with one of those. Each one of my LTs is so different from the others that making an objective choice is difficult. The Mitsu LT-30 is big, gorgeous and silky smooth, the Harman Kardon ST-8 is compact and perfectly quirky, and the Revox B791 is an ingenious design and sounds amazing with the right cartridge. But my gut tells me that I'd keep the B&O 4004 with the MMC20CL cartridge purely for sentimental reasons. Hopefully I'll never have to make that decision.

It seems that when manufacturers and designers went to work on linear trackers, they were able to throw tradition to the wind. Each had their own approach on how to design the best LT possible. They ranged from sublime to outrageous, and the variety of the designs and solutions is what makes LTs so appealing. It's not a matter of "if you've seen one you've seen them all" as is often the case with pivoted arm turntables. It's as if they are telling me, "Kevin, you ain't seen nothin' yet!"


fscl wrtes with baited breath........

So what do you think of the SL-10 fitted with it's original T4P cartridge...... :-k :-k :-k

Believe this is the Japanese one upsmanship on the B & O......... :-k :-k :-k

Yes, Kevin, I fully agree with your assessment on manufacturers, engineers and designers on linear trackers and revel in their ingenuity. Was finally able to hear / see a linear air at T.H.E. $how...... :) :) =D> =D>

TIA for SL-10 impressions....... :)

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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby keiko5 » 28 Apr 2012 19:40

fscl wrote:So what do you think of the SL-10 fitted with it's original T4P cartridge...... :-k :-k :-k

Believe this is the Japanese one upsmanship on the B & O......... :-k :-k :-k

TIA for SL-10 impressions....... :)

Fred


Fred, I started a new SL-10 thread...
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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby aeonsys » 03 Jun 2012 19:57

Good day All, glad that the PX-3 has a vibrant and active user community. I have one also but before I play any serious cartridge or vinyl I need to find out what the overhang measurement is for the cartridge stylus alignment as I do not have the tool. Any info would be appreciated.

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Re: Yamaha PX-3 Linear Tracker: 1st Impressions

Postby Voland » 03 Jun 2012 20:52

PaulTwickers wrote:I have occasionally thought that a refurb might give the PX 3 a second lease of life and am on the look out for advice on where this could be done. Any ideas???

This could be done by Professor-Bizzt. You can find his service listings on eBay classifieds.
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