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Re: Advice, Direction.. Something - ELAC Miracord 50H ii

Postby Alec124c41 » 05 Dec 2011 06:15

You will need a different stylus to play 78s, so a cartridge that has one available for the interchange is good. Shure made cartridges with good stereo needles, that would take their 78 stylus. There was a 78 stylus for the Ortofon OM series, too. I am ignorant of other possibilities.
The other option is to have 2 headshells.

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Re: Advice, Direction.. Something - ELAC Miracord 50H ii

Postby nat » 05 Dec 2011 19:25

Akafrank:
Is there a ring clip in the groove at the top of the bearing? That has to be popped off before the platter can be removed.
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Re: Advice, Direction.. Something - ELAC Miracord 50H ii

Postby gloaming88 » 12 Jan 2012 08:50

Hi,
I'm not new to the vinyl world but I've been using a fully automatic AT-PL50 for the past few years and I wanted to start using my dad's old 50H II. I am new to setting up a turntable and I tried setting it up a few years ago, but never got it to where i wanted. Anytime I play anything it starts to skip towards the end of the lp. I've talked to a few people and some seemed to say the cartridge was out of alignment or i needed to adjust the counter balance. Can anyone here offer me some advice and if it's the alignment could i be pointed in the right direction of the proper protractor ( i tried using the tool for stylus alignment that is on the tt but i'm not sure how accurate it is).
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Re: Advice, Direction.. Something - ELAC Miracord 50H ii

Postby Alec124c41 » 13 Jan 2012 06:56

I suspect that the tracking force needs adjustment.
There is an instruction manual here:
http://www.vinylengine.com/library/elac ... -50h.shtml

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Re: Advice, Direction.. Something - ELAC Miracord 50H ii

Postby mgmillican3 » 27 Feb 2012 17:04

Can anybody tell me if the NOS NIB ELAC CR 66 TAS 7 Cartridge Mount for Miracord PW 660 Turntable Phono will properly fit/mate-up/match with the Vintage ELAC Miracord 50H turntable with RARE Studio 3100 wood case that I am presently doing a rebuild on.
Any assistance/guidance will be appreciated.

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Re: Advice, Direction.. Something - ELAC Miracord 50H ii

Postby gomez58 » 28 Feb 2012 22:33

Back in 1972, my very first stereo system consisted of a Miracord 50HII, along with a Marantz 2015 and a pair of Acoustiflex 3 way bookshelf speakers. While the Marantz and Acoustiflex's are long gone (really miss my Marantz)the Miracord has never quit. I have 5 TTs in all. But, I've always kept the Miracord hooked into the system and she sounds as good today as she did 40 years ago.

I agree with the advice on checking the idler wheel. There are places that will resurface it for you if it is shot.

As far as cartridge and question regarding Shure M91-ED...My table originally came with a mid-grade Empire with eliptical stylus. It sounded OK. But, like so many who had the Miracords and Duals, back then, I tried out the M91-ED and have to say that (and I have tried quite a few)for some reason, that unit sings with that cartridge. Until recently, I had a heck of a time finding a decent replacement stylus (I even tried the Ed Saunders styli...way overpricced). Quality was poor, cantilevers too thick...sound was just not there..until I found a seller on ebay (name is Dualparts)who had beautiful stylus replacements for vintage Shure cartridges. The cantilever is just as delicate as the original and my old Shure sounds as musical as ever on that TT. Just make sure that you get the stylus made in Japan. It costs approx $22 with shipping. Same results with stylus replacement for M95ED (I paid $26).

Also saw a question regarding removal of platter. Instructions were correct...remove spindle, hold down center for counterforce, and pull that heavy platter straight up. I will add this, however. If you set speed selector to 33, it will come off easier because it retracts the idler wheel from the inside of the platter bit more. If you have fine speed adjustment; back off all the way in negative direction and you get even a bit more wiggle room.
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Re: Advice, Direction.. Something - ELAC Miracord 50H ii

Postby anysaxanytime » 15 Mar 2012 04:37

The Miracord 50H platter is just a friction fit. Nothing holds it on except 50 years of gravity and maybe a little sticky dust. Put your fingers in the holes that are at 180 degrees, lift and rock it gently and it will work loose. Do you know that you pull the stylus cleaning brush up and off and underneath there is an alignment pointer to align the stylus with. You turn the screw in the front end of the arm (the cartridge shell) to move the cartridge forward and backwards.
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Re: Advice, Direction.. Something - ELAC Miracord 50H ii

Postby Alec124c41 » 15 Mar 2012 07:02

The original: http://www.lpgear.com/product/ATSAT0011E.html
You need a different stylus for 78s.

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Re: Advice, Direction.. Something - ELAC Miracord 50H ii

Postby ritzn432 » 03 Feb 2013 16:08

maybe this was already answered, but here goes:

I received a Miracord 50H II from my friend a while back, finally got around to setting it up. through various attempts to hook it up to anything (straight to headset, stereo, external sound card) I could only hear it through my stereo, but I had to turn the volume all the way up for it to be at a "normal" level. My dad suggested I find the output impedance of the turntable and input impedance of my stereo and get an impedance matching transformer.

so here's my question: does anyone know the output impedance on the Miracord 50H II?
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Re: Advice, Direction.. Something - ELAC Miracord 50H ii

Postby lini » 03 Feb 2013 21:30

ritzn: Did any of the devices you tried to connect the Elac to actually have a dedicated phono input (most usually MM, less often MM/MC switchable)? If not, you need to hook a phono stage in between, which lifts the weak signal from the cartridge up to line-level and also applies RIAA (re-)equalisation in order to restore the correct frequency response.

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