CF-105 wrote:Need to make up my own? WHy? It seemed fitting.
The poorly researched link is from a gent who actually listened and modded and tried the 1200 in almost every form. But I suppose bad research is any that disagrees with you.
You will attack and insult anyone who disagrees with you. SOP, it seems. I never knew we met.How else would you know what I have owned. Nothing but personal attacks every time from the 1200 army.
My apologies for suggesting that not everyone may prefer a 1200 and that the OP actually LISTEN to both turntables. Obviously bad advice when dealing with Technics 1200 fans.
Anyhow, I am done. I hope the OP enjoys whatever he gets.
You were the first to start with insults with your borrowed weak slogan. It seemed like you had read the link and were just picking bits including your slogan, and as he had owned them so it seemed you had, just how it seems appologies if this is not how it really is. You started this by saying the Technics is mid fi and recommending the op go and try out a a turntable that presumably you thought to be not midfi but hifi, yet had 10 times the wow and flutter of the Technics!! The sort of wow and flutter we see on cheap USB turntables and poor speed accuracy not to mention rather high rumble. How is a turntable that performs so badily hifi and you call a Technics mid fi . I have never said the Technics is the best table in the world or that there is nothing better neither has anyone else, just it is a far better choice than the music hall and looking at the specs many other turntable are too. It is not always possible as you were told to listen to a turntable before you buy. I myself here in North QLD have ONE hifi shop that is 2 hours away and he says business is hard and may not be arround in a year if things continue. If he closes the next hifi shop is A DAYS DRIVE AWAY and realy if you want any real choice you need to get on a plane. My local hifi shop has little choice but can order many things but if you order it you bought it and there is no refund unless it is faulty and cant be repaired so many of us have to make a choice without hearing. A good turntable has to spin at the correct speed smoothly without noise and the Music hall does not do this even the manufactures own specs show this. It is not a case of the 'Technics army' but it to me with the choice that the op proposed Technics is clearly the far better turntable as it does what it was designed to do ie spin stably at the correct speed unlike the music hall.Lastly Regarding your weak link you posted. It is weak as the guy is a long time hater of Technics and if anyone thinks Technics owner are pasionate then they have never met a Technics hater
these guys can be nuts. He admits himself to be a long time hater of Technics going on about Technics owners with pitch forks really funny stuff, then goes on to apparently buy a Technics to try all the mods and prove the Technics is rubbish even with them. If the guy going into an experiment (that is if he really did at all) with SUCH preconcieved ideas that has spent years ranting how bad technics really are is not going to say Oh sorry I was actually wrong I have been making a fool of myself all this time with my publications, lay down your pitch forks I will join this band of merry men 
. It is weak as I said as it is not someone who bought a Technics and was disappointed and then tried all the mods and was still disappointed, no he he bought one to prove it was rubbish! Hmmm very poor.. Regards
CL
but then again who is saying that about a Music Hall 5.1SE? The Vinyl Anachronist seems to have very prejudicial views from what I've read and his statement that an RP3 is better than a modded SL-1200 means he's either willfully misleading or needs his ears cleaning out. If you don't have an ear for pitch stability or absolute pitch or listen to music where this is an issue then much of the quality of the 1200 may be irrelevent. As with any bet of advice on any forum - it should inform your choices and not dictate them.
This thread was a simple question about two options one (the music hall) which has very poor performance(see specs) NOTHING MORE. So much rubbish from those who have never had a Technics anyway.. Come on Guys this is just turntables.
. The very essence of the SL-1200 is that it is a practical and efficient tool for playing records without obvious sonic flaws - it gets the job done, it does what it says on the tin etc. It is not a route to nirvana, it is not a sacred object to revere and worship, it is not a TT for someone who is more interested in the sound of vinyl replay than the music itself and yes it does upset a lot of people that it exists. People like me who spent ages messing about with under engineered, overpriced belt drive TT's when the solution to my needs was there all along only wilfully ignored by a hi-fi press eager to please it's sponsors.