Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by SDG0407 » 21 Feb 2015 20:47

70gto wrote:Keep us posted when it comes out
It is available for ordering now. Testing of the part was succesfull.

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by W-ALLEN » 18 Mar 2015 19:49

Is there a way to figure out which bushing you need with out taking the turntable apart ? I have a 1410MKii .

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Post by SDG0407 » 18 Mar 2015 19:52

W-ALLEN wrote:Is there a way to figure out which bushing you need with out taking the turntable apart ? I have a 1410MKii .
To my knowledge no. :s

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by ejd715 » 04 Apr 2015 02:07

I just got VERY lucky. A buddy of mine found a 1400mk2 on his local Craigslist for $100. He just sent it to me and it arrived today. I figured it would need this issue fixed but low and behold, it works perfectly! However, if it does become problematic, I now know where to go.

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by Starquest » 06 May 2015 19:32

I'm kind of unclear on this repair. I'm not finding a guide or detailed photos anywhere. Do I need to remove the tonearm to get at the part? I haven't yet opened up my TT; once I'm in there, will it be obvious what to do? Thanks.

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by SDG0407 » 06 May 2015 19:46

There is a service manual available on vinylengine which describes the procedure to dissasemble the tt.
Also my first post gives a few tips in assembling and dissassembling

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by Starquest » 06 May 2015 19:55

SDG0407 wrote:There is a service manual available on vinylengine which describes the procedure to dissasemble the tt.
Also my first post gives a few tips in assembling and dissassembling
I've looked at the service manual. That really only gives a general idea though. I'm still trying to get an answer to this question: will I need to remove the tonearm from the TT? It looks to me like you removed the tonearm assembly (circular tonearm base) from the plinth.

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by SDG0407 » 06 May 2015 21:47

You need to remove the tonearm assembly from the tt.

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by Starquest » 06 May 2015 22:00

OK, for my own reference, there are some photos here:

http://mail.audiokarma.org/forums/showt ... p?t=213631

There was once a wordpress site that apparently had more detailed instructions, but that site is gone.

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by dutchflea » 06 May 2015 23:12

To be more specific: you'll need to

1. take the whole turntable apart: remove platter, top plate, board wiring, bottom base, top chassis
2. then remove the tonearm assembly which is mounted on the floating sub chassis
3. then desolder the tonearm wires from the arm base circuit board
4. then remove almost every part from the armbase...

...before you can reach te lift part that is buried deep into the arm base. :)

This means many screws and parts, so don't forget to be well organised and keep the screws & parts grouped and ordered in such a way that you can remember how to put them back easily.

After that you need to reassemble it all again and of course... not forget to test the operation somewhere half way in the assembly process (!), since the lift won't operate smoothly if the parts are nog aligned well: there is some play in the way you can mount the tonearm plates in the arm assembly which affects the lift operation, also you need to test if you used the right the amount of silicone oil you used for the damped arm lift operation.

This takes a considerable amount of time, patience and effort but the end result is well worth it. :)

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by Starquest » 07 May 2015 05:14

dutchflea wrote: This takes a considerable amount of time, patience and effort but the end result is well worth it. :)
I'm sensing a bit of sarcasm there 8)

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by Roberto C2H3 » 07 May 2015 13:23

Hola Starquest;

IMO dutchflea is not expressing sarcasm there. On the contrary, I do believe he is 100% correct with that opinion.

Let me put it another way, replacing the plastic part that is broken is a gigantic PITA.

If you can live with using your Technics 1500 MK2 as a fully manual without cueing, I would recommend you go that route, and forget about the huge effort you will have to undertake when doing this for the first time. The worst part: Two screws in the central part of the tone arm mechanism that were machined in around 1978 and 37 years later will absolutely refuse to budge #-o

Best from the Pampas,
roberto

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by dutchflea » 07 May 2015 20:41

Right! No sarcasm but just a warning that it isn't as easy as some might think, since you were asking yourself if you would need to remove the tonearm from the turntable. ;)

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by Roberto C2H3 » 07 May 2015 20:52

Over the past month or so I've been eBaying a lot searching for the sl 1300 mk2 I just bought yesterday. I had a lot of laughs at the description of most of the sellers. Something akin to "Cueing and auto functions do not work but it should be a simple repair for anyone mechanically inclined". When I messaged them warning that it was a very difficult process, they all promised to amend their description. None did :lol:

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Re: Fixed cueing arm lift for Technics SL 1300-1400-1500 mk2

Post by Starquest » 07 May 2015 20:57

Does anyone know exactly what Technics was trying to accomplish with this particular part? Obviously this problem is unique to this series. There must be some reason they initially designed it that way. I wonder if it has to do with the button on the back of the 1300/1400 that disables the auto functions. AFAIK, no other Technics has the ability to disable auto stuff.

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