Thorens TP11 MKI or TP16 MKI Rewiring
by Dimitris Lamprou
Starring: spare tp16mkI as TP11 MKI
(I’ve already rewired my TP11 and I could only use my spare TP16 as a demonstration model but the procedure is exactly the same)
The whole procedure is easy (giving the necessary attention) so don’t be afraid to try it. There is always the risk of breaking the plastic adaptors but you can easily rewire it so don’t be afraid that you’ll loose your tonearm’s functionality. On the other hand, if you like original vintage items then you should avoid rewiring because I find it very difficult to restore it to its original condition.
I hope that my photos are helpful enough for anyone trying to rewire the TP16 mkI or the TP11 mkI. I’m sorry for any mistakes in my text but English is not my native language.

Step 01: Remove the arm wand. You should first cut or unsolder the tonearm cables from the base side. Remove all weights. Pull the wand free and pull the cables out of the base.
Step 02: Remove the shaft which is holding the nut. Remove the nut holster. At this point you might find some glue making it hard to pull out. Persist carefully and it will come out.
Step 03: You should now remove the plastic shell containing the wire leads. It will also have some glue. If you try to keep it intact, be very careful, if you don’t care about it then use extra force.
Step 04: Now you should have something like this. You can see that the tonearm cables are free to come out.
Step 05: Close up. Not really a step, just have a cup of coffee and proceed with step 06.
Step 06: Remove the old wires from the wand. You can throw it away or if it is still intact keep it, you’ll never know….
Step 07: Twist the new cables together and push them gently into the wand. Push them all the way through until you can reach them from the other side.
Step 08: Don’t forget to get them through the tightening nut as well. Put the nut back in place and secure it with its metal shaft. At this point you might have some trouble keeping it tight because the plastic shell was doing a great job holding everything in place. I used a hot glue gun to secure in place. Perhaps there are other ways too.
Step 09: Check the cable at the exit point. They must move freely.
Step 10: Headshell time! Remove the shaft that’s holding the plastic adaptor in place. Don’t worry it’s easier than the wand side. The adaptor will come off and the way will be free to pass through the new cables.
Step 11: That’s the plastic adaptor coming out of the headshell. My exhibit headshell is from another TT so I couldn’t give you more photos.
Step 12: Comparison between my spare TP16 mkI modelling for this guide and the actually rewired TP11mkI. At this point you have the opportunity to solder and terminate the phono leads without stressing the cables. When you’ll pass the cables through the base (on the balance weight side of the arm) it would be difficult to handle them during soldering.
Photo 13: Close up view of the completed terminated phono leads. You can see the cable passage through the headshell.
Photo 14: Another view of the terminated phono leads
Step 15: The arm-exit / shaft-entry point just underneath the bearing point. REMEMBER to connect the grounding wire on the armwand. I used the old wire for this as it was already terminated with an o-ring.
Step 16: Connect the tonearm cable to the base. You can see some of my other mods, external power cord connector and new coaxial stereo cable for chassis female RCA’s.
For the rewiring I used Cardas 33 AWG Tonearm Wire and Cardas PCC E Cartridge Clips. The wire is TINY but it’s easier to handle than I thought.
I hope this information to be useful to any Thorens fan.
Dimitris
Comments
Is possible rewiring for
Submitted on February 1st, 2010 by VytautasIs possible rewiring for Thorens 240 ?
I really don't know... I've
Submitted on February 5th, 2010 by dlamprouI really don't know... I've never seen a TD240's tonearm.
WIRING COLOUR CODES FOR THE TP16 AND TP60 HEADSHELL
Submitted on November 6th, 2009 by danielDCCAN SOMEBODY HELP ME;..;;
I think that in the past tecnicians changed the coloured wiring when putting a new cardridge.
I would like to check if everythinh is ok or not.
Wile there are no colour-indications on the TP16 arm .... what do I do with the green-red-white and bleu wire???
thorens td125mkII
re wiring
Submitted on October 10th, 2009 by fantasiaThis is great to see.
I own a REGA RB-300, which i was forced to re wire, because if you know the arm with its fixed headshell eventually the connecting wires get shorter and shorter. Then there is no wire left,
getting someone to re wire an arm commercially is not cheap. SO, great addition and well needed,
this also encourages people to "have a go" my re wiring job was like yours not dead easy, but not excessively hard.
What should be pointed out is that you end up with, a much better sounding arm.
Regards
fantasia
Pleeeease post a guide!! I
Submitted on November 20th, 2009 by dlamprouPleeeease post a guide!! I have a Thorens TD160 and a Rega Planar3 so it's time to rewire the RB-300 too.
It was easy to give it a try with the Thorens arm because I had 2. But in rega's case... I'm still reluctant to proceed.
Hot Wired Rega
Submitted on November 20th, 2009 by JaSThere's an archived copy of the 'hot wired rega' article on the last page of the articles section of the forum. It's got pretty much all you need to know :)
Hi Jas, unfortunately I
Submitted on November 24th, 2009 by dlamprouHi Jas,
unfortunately I couldn't find a working link to the "hot wired rega" guide. Every link I found was broken.
Guide
Submitted on November 25th, 2009 by JaSHi,
If you aren't behind a firewall and have Acrobat Reader installed this link should work?
www.vinylengine.com/hotwiredrega.pdf
Regards,
JaS
cabling
Submitted on September 10th, 2009 by maudanFollowing your guide I was capable to fix a problem on my TP16 mkIII tonearm.
The ground pin for right channel on the connector was broken.
Easier than expected, I've extracted the plastic connector from the tonearm and I've replaced the pin (this was not so easy).
Anyway thank you for the valuable suggestions.
Sorry for not replying in
Submitted on November 20th, 2009 by dlamprouSorry for not replying in time. I'm really happy that my guide is useful.
Ground Wire question
Submitted on August 12th, 2009 by Bateau IvreI found your article interesting because I have what is hopefully a wiring problem on my TT. I recently found a Benjamin Miracord Elac 40a which is in pretty good shape. One of the two leads from one of the RCA cables was broken off its terminal. I was able to identify the terminal to which it should be attached and resoldered it. More confusing is the complete lack of a ground wire which all turntables seem to have and which one connects to the rear of the receiver when playing the TT. I have been unable to find a schematic for this TT and don't know where I should attach a ground wire. I was hoping that you could explain where I should attach a ground wire to the Elac 40a. Thanks.
Hi, I think, correct me if
Submitted on November 20th, 2009 by dlamprouHi,
I think, correct me if mistaken, that it's not that strange not to have a ground wire. All REGA's are without one too. I'm not familiar with your TT but if there wasn't one in the first place then it's ok.
ground wire
Submitted on November 20th, 2009 by JaSHi,
If it's like Rega arms they will have joined the arm ground to one of the signal return wires.
Regards,
JaS
TP16 tonearm
Submitted on July 29th, 2009 by maudanThank you for the tutorial
I have a problem on the original tonearm (the one with the fixed headshell) since one pin on the intermediate connector has precarious contact. The solution is to dismantle the assy and clean or replace the pin contacts, in the mean time I'll provide to replace the original wires with something better.
I have some doubts on how to remove the shaft since it seems very delicate to me. Could you please give more details on this matter?
Thank you very much
Rewiring Thorens Tonearm
Submitted on July 28th, 2009 by aekatzThanks for the excellent instructions and photos. I have a 166 mkII and need to rewire the tonearm, but need info on how to best remove the pins holding the ferules to the arm tubes. (Photo 2). Do you have a specialized tool? I found an older article talking about this and they said to use a pin punch, but I can't fine one smaller tha 1/16", which is too big.
Thanks.
Sorry for my delayed answer.
Submitted on November 20th, 2009 by dlamprouSorry for my delayed answer. I just realized that all the commends were actually questions...
You can use, that's what I did anyway, a set of clockwork screwdrivers. If the are of good quality then they can do the job nicely.
Thorens arm re-wiring
Submitted on March 5th, 2009 by billinchileThanks for the excellent, easy-to-follow and well illustrated instructions. Some photos (and perhaps advice) showing you soldering the wires to the cartridge connectors would have been useful, since I (and perhaps others) find it tricky.
cartridge clips soldering
Submitted on March 5th, 2009 by dlamprouI'm very happy that some of you find my guide helpful.
Unfortunately I don't have any soldering photos but I can tell you it's not that tricky. First of all you don't have to strip the wires, they are so thin that the solder iron heat will immediately melt the insulation. If you have any doubts then hold the wire against your working bench and gently scrap the insulation with a knife.
I used a pair of surgical scissors (not the cutting but the squeezing kind), secure the clip with one and try to secure the wire on a heavy surface (I used my desk) using some duct tape to ensure that it won't brake. If you find a way to keep the wire attached to the clip (by using scissors, clamps or any other means) then its ready to solder. You can also use tape on both ends, place the wire in the cartridge clip, place it on your desk or working bench, secure both ends with tape and you are ready to solder.
My first impression was that it would impossible to solder those thin wires, but in the end it proved a lot easier.