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What is the best record cleaning solution
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thread has been created to post what the posters (we) found as the best record cleaning formulas. Thus, i posted what i use with great success.

Granted, we don't know the LONG term effect on the vinyl. I (we) are not sure it is 100% safe. But i'm not claiming i am 100% sure this is safe on the long term. I only say it works, and it works really well.

Besides that, what other alternative formulas are there besides 50% isopropyl-water, and/or Photo-flo and/or a household detergent?

Photo-flo is discouraged to be used on vinyl records by Kodak itself. But that does not stop people for using it with success.A poster above uses dishwashing soap... He is not alone, many people do it. In theory, it would leave more residues than Photo-flo or the concentrated windshield cleaner i'm recommending.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

K-M used to recommend ethanol for their machine . Has this changed?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the best record cleaner is made by us Very Happy Will be going on sale soon, have been sold here locally for about a year and a half. We have 2 flavors, one for general cleaning and one enzyme based for vacuum cleaning. We have a pretty good local following on it too. There are a lot of good record cleaners on the market, prior to getting in with the guys I'm with I used Phoenix record cleaner from SleeveCity. Good stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know what is considered the best cleaning fluid to buy in the UK? I understand I could make my own but...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flavio81 wrote:

Be careful, hand/dish soap leaves way too many residues. I wouldn't use tap water either. Distilled water works best (and with the glass cleaner concentrate, even better.

I tried to get some info on the dish washing liquid I have on my sink, Palmolive Pure and Clean, and came up with a partial list from the MSD. Doesn't look like it has as many potentially harmful ingredients as your windshield washer fluid, but again, it's not a full list of ingredients. Only a guess, but I would bank on the dish washing liquid to be less harmful with fewer deposits than the windshield washer fluid.

Sodium C12-13 Pareth Sulfate - a surfactant
Sodium Dodecyl Benzene Sulfonate - a surfactant
Sodium Xylene Sulfonate - a hydrotrope
(Carboxymethyl)dimethyl-3-((1-oxododecyl)amino)propy
lammonium hydroxide - an antistatic
Ethanol
Lactic acid
The only other info I could get was that it Phosphate free.

I wouldn't use a hand dishwashing liquid for record cleaning as it foams, a non sudsing detergent would be better, but just noting that it doesn't look like there is anything in this that would leave deposits.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering if using white vinegar for records with possible mold for a minute or two would damage it assuming it is rinsed very very thoroughly after and vacuum dried?

I'm just curious because I find vinegar really unsettles mold, mildew, etc very quickly like nothing else. It would seem a very good solution for vinyl no?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone else in another thread suggested cleaning records in warm water with one third vinegar. I have tried this with particularly dirty records and it has done no harm to the record and has definitely improved the sound. I followed this with my normal cleaning using a fluid and a distilled water rinse, all vacuumed off. Vinegar is a mild acid so it pays to be careful. I'm no chemist but I don't think vinegar harms vinyl (vinyl is pretty tough, after all we drag a diamond through the grooves periodically).

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you use the Okki Nokki cleaning fluid without the actual machine?

Anyone?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the last month I have been using Mobile Fidelity cleaners in my VPI HW 17 record cleaner. I have tried both the enzyme based and the heavy duty cleaners. They work very well with their velvet scrubing brush. Once sucked dry they look and sound like new. Sure the product is not cheap but a quart bottle in the machine cleans a good 300 records. The math works out to tenths of a cent per record.
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